August 30, 2005
Are Greenies safe?
A few weeks ago on the Yahoo group list for the Association of Pet Dog Trainers, the topic of Greenies came up. I wrote in to tell my tale of how I had to administer Canine CPR to Rusty, a Jack Russell Terrier, who stayed at my house for a long weekend, while a good friend recovered from surgery. Rusty bit off a large piece and nearly choked to death.
The very first night the dog was here, I gave him his nightly Greenie. He ate it quickly and a piece got lodged in his throat. I had to pick him up, turn him upside down, pull out his tongue, and jam my fingers down his throat, and try not get bitten all at the same time. All the while I was chanting...you can't die on my watch....don't die on my watch...please Rusty...don't die. Time stood still while I did everything I could think of to get that Greenie O-U-T! In hindsight, it must have been quite a site to behold!
It was very scary, but I got the piece out and it was probably an inch and a half square. I am not really sure, because he swallowed it back up before I could get a good look at it! That dog didn't poop for 4 days, and I am certain he had a large piece lodged somewhere. I had called the Vet and we were watching him for signs of distress. Rusty was quite close to being scheduled for tests and possibly surgery when the piece finally passed. All the while my good friend is calling to check on her baby and I am lying through my teeth, saying "oh he's great, and we are all having a blast!" I felt it was as good a time as any for a little white lie. My friend was very sick and there was nothing we could do for the dog other than wait and see. Had he needed surgery, I would have told her first. Rusty still enjoys Greenies on a daily basis, but she doesn't feed them to him in the presence of other dogs. We believe that being in the room with my dog is the reason why he snarfed it down so quickly.
During our on line trainer discussion many wrote in to say that anything we give our dog has the potential to be harmful, and that we need to monitor our dogs closely. A well known vet behaviorist wrote in to share tales of everyday items that she has removed from many dogs over the years, and noted that she has had comparatively few Greenie incidents. Others wrote in that they use only Greenie Teenies little bit chips, which I thought was a good idea, and even more trainers wrote in to report that their dogs were addicted to Greenies, and acted like little druggies after dinner when it was "Greenie time".
Count me out as a Greenie enabler, and apparently I am not the only who has had a problem.
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Two lines of thought here.
The first, many trainers recommend giving a greenie, pigs ear or other edible items when leaving the house to make the dog look forward to you leaving. Second, others are firm at having only "supervised" chew times.
I am torn because I have always used the first line of thought in my training methods and guess that I have been lucky to a point. I now use dried chicken breast treats from Dogswell - expensive but kinda like jerky. And, it takes a little longer to eat and would soften if lodged. I do however give puppy sized greenies to my 30 lb eskies and haven't had any problems yet - yet is the key word. I will most likely rethink this after your article......
Posted by
ChrisAugust 30, 2005 11:18 AM
Hi Nancy,
That was scary! I am also worried about chunks of rawhide and the
velvet cornstarch bones. What is the solution??
Soft toys get destroyed easily and the filling comes out. Rope toys get
stringy and my dog eats bits of rope. What is the perfect safe toy?? Is
there a source for this kind of information? Thanks
Posted by worried
August 30, 2005 11:30 AM
My orally fixated Border Collie loves his rubber rings and nylabone. $10 each and they last YEARS, safely. I don't give rawhide or rope any more since had to do emergency tracheotomy on an ex-dog. We never found the bone or whatever it was, but had her on a breathing tube three days til the swelling went down and it either resorbed or passed. Expensive. Still searching for the yummy safe treats, though. Hotdogs, sliced and microwaved to be dry seem to be working. Thanx for all your great suggestions. Thia
Posted by
Thia ArtemisAugust 30, 2005 11:47 AM
I stopped using greenies because of it seemed to induce vomiting and or diarrhea. Not every time but often enough to be of concern.
If your dog expects to have a goodie given when you leave the house, my vote goes to a stuffed (even stuffed and frozen) Kong or the rubber Kong treat dispenser "Stuff-a-Ball"
http://www.kongcompany.com/worlds_best.asp
The largest Kong stuffed can take the place of feeding a meal in a bowl.
So you kill two birds with one stone, occupy the dog and feed a meal.
Sandi
Pet Improvement
California
Posted by
SandiAugust 30, 2005 11:57 AM
I agreee with Sandi. We prefer the largest kong I could purchase filled with treats.
The dogs look forward to this every time we leave the house. It takes Lucky about 1 hour to get to the bottom of his kong. That's where I place a teaspoon of peanut butter.
Yummy and safe,
Linda
Alaska
Posted by
LindaAugust 30, 2005 01:35 PM
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